Living Up To Expectations
By Leonard Gill
MARCH 1, 1999:
Go through back issues of The New Yorker and youll find that the
issue that introduced Tina Brown as editor-in-chief of that magazine
was the same issue that brought us Darcey Steinke in a black cat-suit.
The occasion for the caricature? A none-too-kind review of Steinkes
sexy second novel, Suicide Blonde, but how times do change. Whereas
Brown the ex-editor seems to have dropped off the face of the
Earth, Suicide Blonde went on to be translated into seven languages,
a follow-up novel, Jesus Saves, was voted a New York Times Notable
Book of the Year, and the University of Mississippi got its wish
and got Darcey Steinke as this years writer-in-residence.
This month marks the paperback publication of Jesus Saves (Grove
Press) and a broad collection of essays by contemporary writers
on the subject of religion called Joyful Noise: The New Testament
Revisited (Back Bay Books), which Steinke coedited with her friend
Rick Moody. When I talked to Steinke from her home in Oxford,
she had this to say on the writing life, the teaching life, and
the stuff of little-girl dreams.
Flyer: I know nothing about your background, your career as writer.
What got you started?
Steinke: Well, I was born in Roanoke, Virginia, and my dad was
a minister. So we moved around a lot, a few years here, a few
years there. But I grew up with a bad, debilitating stutter. I
would get really discombobulated and Id have to write requests
and stuff on little pieces of paper. That was the beginning of
everything, because there were times when I really couldnt talk.
I wanted to be fluent and I couldnt do it orally, so I started
to write. Short stories mostly, when I was 7, 8, or 9. I would
rewrite them and bind them with yarn, make construction-paper
covers for them. I was serious about it. Very serious.
What brought you to the University of Mississippi?
Thered been a really nasty review of Suicide Blonde in The New
Yorker, in Tina Browns first issue. The tone of the whole magazine
was sort of cynical, but [writer and Ole Miss faculty member]
Barry Hannah wrote or called, I cant remember which, and hed
read the book and thought the magazine had been cruel. He liked
the book a lot and said people up there take magazines too seriously,
but we down here dont really care. And its true. In New York,
you get sort of obsessed with high-end media junk, and you feel
shamed.
Have you been surprised by the critical reaction to Jesus Saves,
a book as lyrical in expression as it is dark in subject matter?
I sort of thought thered be a certain hesitancy to the subject
matter. Theres some resistance, in whats considered a literary
novel, to subject matter and a style thats florid. But I tend
to like that. You know, I was raised on the Bible, and theres
nothing more florid than the Bible.
From your own essay in Joyful Noise, its clear many of the details
in Jesus Saves the safety young girls seek in storybook, mythological
characters, the world as dangerous place, the coexistence of good
and evil you lift directly from your own experiences and perceptions
growing up. Are you always so autobiographical in your novels?
I really cant get away from writing novels about ministers daughters.
But just because a character is a ministers daughter doesnt
mean its me. The position itself is so interesting. For one thing,
you have a fairly classical education, a sort of old-style education...
And you grow up knowing youre being closely watched.
Yes. But that gives you a jump-start on how everybodys starting
to feel now. The whole postmodern idea that youre always on camera.
Ive always been fascinated with that. And too, youre supposed
to be good. But theres this tremendous impulse to be naughty.
Have you been naughty?
I was pretty much a good girl. But I had my periods. When I first
got to New York, I had my Ecstasy-taking, club-hopping for a year
or two. On the whole, I was pretty well-behaved, actually.
Whats been your fathers reaction to a book as sexually explicit
as Jesus Saves?
Well, he reads all my books, but sometimes I think its hard for
him. When he gets to the sexy parts, he tends to read down the
page really quick. He cant take it. I think hes a pretty good
sport, though.
In that book, a Lutheran minister loses his congregation, his
pot-smoking daughter is girlfriend to a boy obsessed with the
devils physical manifestation in this world, and a girl named Sandy Patrick (the only character in the novel graced with
both a first and last name) is abducted, held in ropes, and raped
over the course of several months by a man more resembling a troll.
Can Jesus be said to save any of these characters? Or is Jesus
Saves one more roadside sign littering a denatured, suburban
landscape?
I wanted to think Sandy Patrick was saved in her own way. That
was conscientiously done. A person in that situation would be
hard to save in a clichéd, fundamentalist, born-again way, or
even in some more traditional, Christian way. I figured there
would be an inner working towards something based on the mythological
characters from Sandys childhood.
Why then should a mythological creature the unicorn out of Sandys
storybooks and daydreams be the very one to confess to bringing
a figure as monstrous as the troll into her life? In Sandys
storybook reality, that reality betrays her, doesnt save her.
I dont know if I can address that directly. But all the pink
kitty cats and yellow ducklings and that sort of thing stuff
that I was really fascinated with as a kid
Unicorns and talking
bears
My stuffed animals all had names. But they always seemed
sort of sinister in a way as well. Nobody is very interested in
talking about that. The stuff for little girls. If you walk into
Wal-Mart, theres a whole aisle of it. But it has a dark undercurrent
to it. And its this idea of being set up
I feel thats very
dangerous. To be set up the way girls are set up to be princesses.
Its a built-in failure. The way people build the expectations
of little girls. The way you look, the way youre going to be
able to trade off on your manners, your politeness. Youre going
to have this wonderful world, this adult happiness, this romantic
love.
You also write in Joyful Noise that Jesus is at his most powerful
when he is completely vulnerable. And in Jesus Saves, the minister-father
implicates his congregation in the crime committed against Sandy.
His daughter, Ginger, takes his sermon to heart and finds herself
attempting the rescue of yet another abducted girl. Vulnerable
these characters may be, but theyre at their most powerful during
their moments of greatest empathy.
And thats what Im most interested in empathy, and how Christianity
is really good for encouraging it. Im not very interested in
anything else as far as traditional Christian things go.
But Jesus Saves. Its a strange book, isnt it? Its got this
new cover, and I thought, Ill read it again. And I did and came
away thinking, gosh, what a strange book youve written.

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